Marshall Jcm 900 Dual Reverb Model 4101 Reviews
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I use it for bedchamber and for small gigs and garage
Whatsoever reviews and comments??
I use a epi les paul custom with PGN/customB and usually play classic to modernistic rock music.
Cheers any opinions is much appreciated!!
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Its the dual reverb 100 watt 1 10 12 combo. I tin can get a really good deal at the moment, cheaper than fifty-fifty 2d hand classic 30s and ac15s etc. So should i fifty-fifty consider itor just go for any other amps.I utilise it for sleeping room and for small gigs and garage
Any reviews and comments??
I employ a epi les paul custom with PGN/customB and usually play archetype to modern rock music.
Thanks whatever opinions is much appreciated!!
I've got the 2x12 version. Hmmm. It's an amp that gets a bad rap, especially if information technology's non the EL34 version.
I like the A channel. I'g personally not and then crazy almost the B channel. I see many reviews that hold with that.
Also, many people say this is not a very "marshally" sounding amp (unless you get the El34s blah apathetic). I think information technology'due south pretty throaty though. If yous've e'er seen the offset of the TV prove "Psych" on The states network, mine sounds merely like the opening Thou chord of the title song.
The gain on the B channel also goes through a clipping diode, and many have commented that that'southward not a "true" tube circuit. It's sort of like having a distortion pedal "built in" the amp.
Now, I'll say that it tin become to pretty heavy distortion on the B side. It'south what I'd telephone call a "raunchy" distortion - practiced for maybe - I detest to say it, just Punk (I'thousand thinking of the Disharmonism) simply it can get pretty saturated - to a more than 80s metal sound (though many people describe it equally "grunge" because it came out in the 90s).
If I had it to do over over again, for what I spent on information technology (information technology was NOS) I'd get something different every bit the high proceeds doesn't suit me - and then I felt like a bought a two channel amp with only one useable (for me) aqueduct. I take Fenders that are the aforementioned but I knew going in that the Normal and Vibrato channels were not footswitchable. But I practise like, and accept admittedly no problem with the A side. It'southward very squeamish. And to be honest, the sound is not then different my Fenders that I feel it's a "drastic" departure (again others might complain that this is less "marshally" though.
It also does a really decent clean - I've heard that other amps, like a JCM 800 don't stay (or are never really) every bit clean. I think this would be a really nice Jazz amp for someone who needs clean volume with simply a tad of breakup.
My problem is, it'south enough like my Twin (not simply like mind you, only like) that I'thou really just duplicating what I already have, and I was looking for something more unique sounding.
Oh, many take described it as brighter, more brittle, harsh, etc. I think as far as the proceeds is concerned, I'd accept to agree that it's a tad on the scratchy side, merely agian, with simply a affect of hair on it it'south quite prissy. It also has an effects loop and yous can get in in that location and practice some fine tuning with EQs and such. So, I think with some work I'm going to be able to make this amp work for me, only let'due south say that "out of the box", it wasn't the Air-conditioning/DC sound that I was expecting.
By the way, mine is switchable from 100 to 50 watts, and I call back yous can pull tubes to make it 25. Only I'll say that even on fifty watts, it'southward pretty loud.
Overall, I'd say, if you like the sound of information technology, and then get for it. But, if there'southward something else you're considering, you might want to do some research on the 900s before buying and make sure y'all're getting what you think you're getting (they fabricated a lot of changes in that model over the years).
HTH,
Steve
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How do y'all think this compares with amps such equally the classic thirty, laney vc30, orang tiny terror and the hughes kettner 20th edition tube. These are my choices and the jcm900 is the cheapest of the lot by a huge margin- #4
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The JCM 900 is a constant contender when people mail "name the worst amp e'er".The other choices seem much better IMHO. BTW 100 watts for dwelling and garage gigging, you volition exist playing book on 1 a lot.Good luck!
Theres the correct reply. No need for 100 watts for home gigging.
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cheaper than a archetype 30 used in australia!! Decisions decisions!! - #7
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I empathise that 100 watts and bad reviews is an issuee..but itss soooo inexpensive
Volition you still consider it cheap when you have to buy a $200.00 to $300.00 attenuator to manage the volume?
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Will you still consider it cheap when you have to buy a $200.00 to $300.00 attenuator to manage the volume?
Yet cheaper than a classic xxx and and nevertheless around half cost of the edition tube
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Well, if it'due south that cheap, take hold of it upwardly and come across if you like it. If not, sell information technology and maybe make a few bucks.
I agree. Play information technology. If y'all like information technology, purchase it. Even at l watts though, information technology's loud - you tin can play information technology repose, merely if y'all're doing that, you might as well buy a Fender Champion 600 - unless this 900 is going for less than 200 bucks!
"worst amp e'er". Well, we all hate solid state besides for the well-nigh part merely that didn't end JC120s from finding their niche. I call up the trouble with the 900s (or at to the lowest degree this version) is we all think the niche should have been rock and whorl (and that'due south what Marshall seems to be telling us too) merely I think if y'all don't use the B channel, this would be an excellent Jazz amp. Of course, they should take named it the "Jazz Combo Marshall 900" and less people would be peeved (of class, they'd exist wondering what that high proceeds channel was doing on there!). If you're thinking you're buying an AC/DC Marshall though, think once more (IMHO).
Information technology's a Skilful amp - it sounds Skillful (on the A channel IMO). Information technology just sounds different from what nigh of us expect.
My inflated $0.02 worth.
Steve
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Now, supposing you got that space, cranked upwards the clean channel is very nice but I have a feeling that information technology lacks warmth and roundedness (y'all can't accept that tasty Robben Ford/ Larry Carlton/ BB king sweetness) just I guess this is a matter of taste. The lead aqueduct doesn't offer the lows and the punchiness I've always dreamed of and if you lot gear up the gain too high it cuts through (which is good) because information technology is throaty-ish (which is bad).
What kind of annoys me is that when y'all switch from the clean to the pb channel you experience something is missing- retrieve of the audio of a Harley Davidson compared to the sound of a 2-stroke scooter or a chainsaw (I hope this makes sense).
I've also tried to find a Slash tone but eg the Sweetness Child.. intro is always sort of muddy through my 900.
Another thing; I can't find a sweet spot, I ever feel that I take to experiment with the controls, which -I guess I have to acknowledge- ways that I should await for another amp. Remember though that I've owned no other tube amps, then information technology might exist only me...
Pedals? Yes, it'south pedal friendly, I accept an EMMA compressor, an RC booster and an LTD SR overdrive before the preamp, only I retrieve everything starts with a good amp.. I mean if you add together table salt and pepper to a badly cooked dish...
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Thanks then much for the recommendation, but im indeed looking for that crunch and atomic number 82 sound that slash had. Is this possible with a JCM900 channel A with pedals?
I don't call up then. Getting close to Slash'due south tone regardless of the amp requires a cranking loud amp with speakers and air moving. And chasing a professionally played and recorded guitar sound is an impossible task. There are a lot of neat amps that sound proficient at low volumes simply IMO, no way your gonna go that kind of tone quietly. There are a million amps and pedals that claim they do merely I honestly think there is no substitute for volume.
The all-time you lot tin hope for is to observe a tone that you lot like and piece of work on PLAYING like Slash. Just copping his amp sound doesn't affair. Yes, i'chiliad in the "tone is in the easily" army camp. Nosotros all know Slash could make a 900 sound fabulous.
I'll still say grab it up, work with it and sell if you lot don't like information technology. If it's that cheap, why not?
FWIW, there are indeed pro'southward that like 900's.
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Cheers so much for the recommendation, simply im indeed looking for that crunch and atomic number 82 sound that slash had. Is this possible with a JCM900 channel A with pedals?
To me it's not as "articulate" equally Slash's tone. It'south a piddling "saturate-y". The other affiche was describing the harley to scooter scenario and I think this is true (though that caption might be a bit extreme). But the two channels are tonally different, and share the EQ, so for me information technology'due south hard to become both of them to audio right (which for me was part of the reasoning behind buying a two aqueduct amp!)
I think the gain structure is a trivial more "brittle". I of the main complaints about this amp is that the high proceeds channel has clipping diodes congenital in meaning there's a "distortion pedal built in the box" and of course the major downfall is, unlike your own pedal, you can't endeavor dissimilar ones. So basically, on the loftier proceeds channel, you've got a "Marshall-built Distortion Pedal" ON all the time - all you can exercise is plow down the "gain" control. I thought I could turn that gain all the fashion down and run the master hot for the high gain channel (essentially using information technology as the low gain channel instead) but even with the gain to 0.000001, you've got dirt in at that place, and, moving it from 0.000001 to 0.000002 means the amp gets incredibly louder with the main cranked. It's merely not very usable (in my experience).
Still, if it's VERY cheap, and yous need a loud amp that takes pedals well (at least in one channel), I would recommend it - as long as y'all become your Slash tone from the pedal, and non the amp. Of course, as said before, the right pedal can make a SS amp audio proficient plenty to be usable depending on your needs.
Peace,
Steve
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The JCM 900 is a abiding contender when people post "name the worst amp always".
Yeah I was going to exist facetious and reply "a great deal on a JCM 900? how much is the guy paying yous to take it?"
There may exist people who love this amp, more than power to 'em.
- #17
Theres the right answer. No need for 100 watts for dwelling house gigging.
Actually in the Marshall line, there is an excellent answer to the (usually intractable) trouble of 100 Watts. Get David Bray to stick one of those post phase inverter primary volumes on your Marshall and you can indeed utilize 100 Watts all the way downward to bedroom level.
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